EP 168: Combat as the Minimum Viable Product | Cix Liv, REK

Cix Liv challenges the Silicon Valley consensus that humanoid robots belong in the warehouse or the battlefield. By explicitly rejecting the “Terminator” military arbitrage and the “Jetsons” domestic servant model, REK validates a new thesis: entertainment is the only sector where the reliability is acceptable and economically viable.

The discussion dissects the unit economics of robot combat, the “context window” required for mainstream sport adoption, and why American “lawyer culture” a friction is fundamentally losing the hardware war to Chinese “engineering culture” explored in Dan Wang’s Breakneck This is a forensic look at building “Real Steel” without government grants or safe software margins.

The Agenda:
00:00 - Beta Testing Robot Roadshows
05:06 - Defining the Real Steel Concept
07:14 - "Context Window" of Violence vs. eSports
16:59 - State of Bipedal Balance & Chinese Hardware
26:02 - Robot Soldier vs Real Steel Decision
33:01 - B2B SaaS Brain Drain
37:01 - Unit Economics: Reliability Arbitrage
45:04 - Tech Stack of Tele-Operation
52:07 - Dan Wang’s Breakneck Thesis: Engineer China vs Lawyer US
57:37 - Bringing Detroit to Texas

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